Confess and Digress: The Reba Remix

EVEN GODS MAKE MISTAKES. 

Join Nick, Holly, and Melissa as they forget to press record. Sorry queenifers—this audio is coming directly from an iPhone and sounds a bit off. Mega apologies to our producers (ourselves) for this mild indiscretion. 

Join CONFESS THEN DIGRESS as we chat auf Deutsch, about introducing people at parties, and baby snatchers. Melissa speaks on the diva alert at the Harper Collins booth, Nick brings back religious conventions, and Holly reminds to remember Nicole Kidman. 

Pay extra close attention to the light and love leave our voice as we realize the audio was not recording. It's a historic "yup." 

Jenny Nicholson's Star Wars hotel video: https://youtu.be/T0CpOYZZZW4?si=g6s1PxRZkOqReaT_

Jenny Nicholson's Last Bronycon video: https://youtu.be/4fVOF2PiHnc?si=QkDSc-TiSLxB2HBl

YouTuber that reviews conventions: https://www.youtube.com/swellentertainment

We Need to Talk About Kevin: https://bookshop.org/p/books/we-need-to-talk-about-kevin-lionel-shriver/3acfff49bb774311?ean=9780061124297&next=t

Maternal Instinct: https://www.netflix.com/tudum/maternal-instinct

Thank you for listening queenifers!

Digress & Confess was created by us—Holly, Nick, & Melissa. The show's music was mixed by Nick, with credit to Kevin Macleod. The show is edited by Nick (& sometimes Melissa). Thank you to Brian for your editing guidance. Thank you to Jess for taking our season 1 show photo.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_03 0:00

So hey guys, here's our disclaimer. Yeah. We forgot to press record. So we're gonna still release this episode, but know that the audio quality is going to be what it's going to be.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Yeah, it's gonna be like from an iPhone video. Yeah. And you'll probably hear like the fan in the room in the background. But like we just talked for like an hour and it was a good episode.

SPEAKER_00 0:18

It was a good one.

SPEAKER_01 0:18

So sorry, but you know what? This will show us who our real fans are. How about that?

SPEAKER_02 0:31

Remix in Dagress.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

Well, welcome everybody.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

Yeah, welcome. I want to say for our Patreon subscribers who get to view us visually, you're getting a preview of the season two, perhaps season two artwork. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:48

We don't know how our seasons work. Um we haven't said. No, there's no way. I think it's kind of based on vibes. So Lindsay, who is watching this, because she always shut up. Yeah. So Lindsay, this is for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:01

Lovey girl.

SPEAKER_01 1:02

Love you girl. Welcome to our Reba Remix. The Rebo Remix. The Reba Remix, um, Confess and Digress, where we're starting this episode with a confession. We've heard feedback records. And listeners, listeners, you may have noticed, um, we may have noticed a twang, or you may have noticed a twang. That was pretty soft. And we are wearing um cowboy hats, we're kind of in our western wear because we're going to a themed party after recording.

SPEAKER_03 1:34

Big.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

And you know, maybe this is just like maybe this is our new aesthetic.

SPEAKER_00 1:39

I mean, I'm moving south.

SPEAKER_01 1:40

Yeah, yeah, Melissa's moving to the Appalachian.

SPEAKER_00 1:43

The culture, I think. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:45

Um, and did you did you know that it is Appalachia? Appalachia. It is not Appalachia. Appalachia. Appalachia. It's a hard ch. Yeah. So Melissa will be the the um the resident southerner. Yeah, she'll be the non-composer for you. I personally just love western aesthetics, and I own a lot of western wear because I like the way it looks, um, despite being terrified of horses, and you couldn't pay me to go just back. Right.

SPEAKER_03 2:13

You have been to Montana though. I have been to Montana. That was pretty cool. Yeah. That's kind of big. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:19

I went to a rodeo one time, that was scary.

SPEAKER_03 2:21

I've been to a rodeo too.

SPEAKER_01 2:22

I had also, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:23

Okay, so you all had to have a few.

SPEAKER_01 2:25

And I did wear sandals and everyone laughed at me, but however, I didn't know that I was supposed to wear a boot. Right. I hadn't really been into I wasn't into cowboy boots at the time. But now, now I could I would go prepared.

SPEAKER_03 2:36

Not really. Okay, good. You would show up correct.

SPEAKER_01 2:39

I would show up correctly, maybe even in this hat. So who wants to confess first?

SPEAKER_00 2:45

I can confess first.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Okay, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 2:47

Um, saw a couple videos online from an old choir that I wasn't a part of. But like this this choir like posts stuff online about like, you know, them singing, of course, right? But they also post videos of them singing in public. Um I think if a choir is singing in public, it's an international crime.

SPEAKER_03 3:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:09

Like I think there's something so disruptive about it.

SPEAKER_03 3:12

Are they good?

SPEAKER_00 3:13

No. It's like a community choir. Like, I hey, I love it. You're getting you're getting together with people and you're singing. That's great. That's really, really nice.

SPEAKER_03 3:23

Are we in a place where it's like appropriate to be a choir, like New York, like like Times Square?

SPEAKER_00 3:28

No, it's like in a restaurant, no, like in public transportation.

SPEAKER_01 3:33

It's sort of it's like you're kind of in like a suburban like chilies, and it's not one of the time. It's like with it's the same energy as like theater kids who go to Perkins and like kind of do the stage performance production again, like in the middle of the restaurant.

SPEAKER_00 3:48

Exactly, and they're like, this is so cute.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

I'll add it to the carousel, but we've all seen the video of like those theater kids performing Tell Me More in a Perkins at like one in the morning. Oh yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

Very that.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

Yeah. But again, international crime. Charge that international court.

SPEAKER_03 4:03

That's a that's a correct confession.

SPEAKER_00 4:05

Probably. Oh, you mean me?

SPEAKER_03 4:08

No, not fucking with people.

SPEAKER_00 4:10

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 4:12

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:14

Do you wonder what? I did see a video once of like, I believe, like a gospel choir performing in like a hotel that was like a bunch of levels, and there was like a corridor in the middle of the hotel, and it created this beautiful echo, and it did move me to tears.

SPEAKER_00 4:28

I was gonna say that is like still kind of different, but it did move me to tears.

unknown 4:32

Because that is, I mean, the acoustics are the sterile. And they are really good.

SPEAKER_01 4:35

I mean, I have full body chills.

unknown 4:37

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 4:38

I'll confess. Yeah. It's a tough one. It's a doozy. Yeah. It's a doozy. So it is Pride Month. Um, and you know, I bedazzled these gorgeous hats for us. I guess where I went yesterday in the pursuit of my my cowboy hat. A Chick-fil-A. No, Hobby Lobby. Right. I did go to Hobby Lobby yesterday. I did. Are you are you like? I've actually never been to the bottom. Like, what do I have in my head? Because in my head I'm thinking, Michaels probably is not gonna have cowboy hats. Why would like why would they? They might have like party hats at most, like blank t-shirts. Hobby lobby, which I associate with the South. Hobby Lobby is like a relatively new kind of thing in Minnesota, I feel. Like within the last decade. Right, right.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Yeah, it's like the Walmart of the Walmart and Michaels.

SPEAKER_01 5:36

Yeah, so I did drive myself to Hobby Lobby yesterday. Cause I'm like, they gotta have cowboy hats. I was looking at their website, they had cowboy hats on the website, and I thought, yeah. I pulled up and I was thinking, like, I can't believe I'm doing this during Pride Month. Like, I I felt genuine like shame and discomfort being like, I can't believe I'm about to do this. Like, that's really crazy. And I go in and I'm looking, and they only have pink cowboy hats. And I was gonna buy, and it was with all the like party decorations because they have this aisle of like themed party decorations and like sections. So they had like a section that was like little kids' like Toy Story birthday party, and they had some like brown plastic little kids' cowboy hats, and then they had like the pink pony club bachelorette section, right? And I see the pink cowboy hats, and I'm listener.

SPEAKER_03 6:27

Listener were wearing black cowboy hats.

SPEAKER_01 6:28

Yes, I'm wearing black cowboy hats that I bedazzled in different with different types of jewel art. So I'm like walking around and I was like, I want black because I want black for my outfit personally. I don't want a pink cowboy hat. And I was walking around and I was gonna buy them because I was like, wow, this is my only option. And I thought, you know what? Let me just check the Michaels website and just see. Just see what they got going on. Check Michaels, and Michaels on like Hobby Lobby, shows you if something is available in the store.

SPEAKER_02 7:03

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_01 7:06

And sure enough, Michaels has cowboy hats in every color of the rainbow. And they're cheaper. $2.99 for these self hats. Yeah. And so I thought, thank God. Thank God. Thank God, actually. This is like a pride miracle. I don't have to spend money in Hobby Lobby. And I can go to Michael's, my tried and true. So that's my confession is that I did um almost shop at Hobby Lobby during Pride Month, and I was really kind of feeling a type of way about it. But Michael saved the day as it does.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

Superhero is my confession.

SPEAKER_03 7:40

I'm a little vulnerable. So we're going to a party tonight, and um, I I know the hosts a little, like love them both, but I only know them a little. They're new friends, they're Holly's friends. Um, and then Holly and Nick will be there, and I won't know anybody else, and I am panicking. I am incredibly shy, which is not really something that my friends usually see because I have a huge group of friends that I've had basically my entire life. Um, so if you guys don't know where I am, you can just go find a corner and probably find me. Yeah, I'm terrified. I've been freaking out about it all day. I almost can't see it.

SPEAKER_01 8:16

I'm not gonna know anyone either. I'm not gonna be able to do it. You guys are good. Besides them too.

SPEAKER_03 8:20

I know, but you guys are good at this.

SPEAKER_00 8:23

Well, you're gonna be right between the two.

SPEAKER_03 8:24

I wouldn't be alone.

SPEAKER_00 8:25

Yeah, I was like, you're not, yeah, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 8:26

I'm gonna be very afraid.

SPEAKER_00 8:28

I do not want to separate from the two of you at this party. Like, no, like we're together.

SPEAKER_03 8:32

I'm very much panicking.

SPEAKER_00 8:33

I'm also gonna tell you, I'm I've also been panicking about it all day because I felt the same.

SPEAKER_03 8:38

Like I'm so excited to go. To be clear, I'm so happy birthday, Canadian. Happy birthday.

SPEAKER_00 8:45

Happy to celebrate.

SPEAKER_03 8:46

Happy to celebrate that. They're lovely, and I'm sure everyone there will be lovely since they're lovely. But it's like the idea of new people is so scary. Right. Um, there are two people hanging outside the elevator who are about to go have sex upstairs, and that was one day. I'm so excited for them. So they are ready for it. They have been there. They're going to they're gonna have sex while they record this podcast. Yeah. Good for them. Happy for them. But anyway, that was my confession that I'm like very terrified.

SPEAKER_01 9:13

Oh my gosh, don't be scared. If anything, we can just go key in a corner by ourselves. And that's that's the beautiful thing about attending a party where you don't know anyone, is like if you bring people, then you can just like hang out with the people you bring if you don't feel like talking to anyone, or like you're too scared to talk to talk to anyone else. Let me tell you what I do when I show up to a birthday party or a gathering where I don't know anyone but the host. Um, I get too high because I think it'll well, first of all, I think getting high will make me social. Wrong. Sure. Wrong. It actually just makes me incredibly weird, and I become completely mute and also immobile.

unknown 9:53

Sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

So there have been there's been more than one instance where I'm a little stoned and literally just kind of sitting, like listening to all the conversations around me, not speaking and not moving.

unknown 10:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

It's happened to me on more than one occasion. Sure. Everyone's kind of like, You good? I'm like, yeah, fine. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:12

This is my normal self.

SPEAKER_01 10:14

I think she got maybe I don't know. I had like a THC and I'm I'm I'm listening though. I'm definitely in that section.

SPEAKER_00 10:21

I'm really here. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

I'm definitely here. So that's how I show up to events where I don't know anyone. So yeah, I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_00 10:28

Should take you to a convention.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

Well, your your confession is bringing me into a digression, which I think um to me, I'm I'm a bit like I do think it is sort of the responsibility of the host and Gideon and Miles, if you're listening, I have full faith in you too. I'm sure you're phenomenal. I'm just looking forward to the evening. Um, but I do think it is the responsibility of the host to like introduce people and get them talking to each other. Yeah. Which is why I personally find it difficult to host, or like why I find it so exhausting because I think about my birthday, for example, and like I loved my birthday, it was so fun, but I was going like person to person and being like, Amy, this is Josh and Jordan. Like, they Amy and I used to work at da-da-da. Like, oh Erin, do you remember Courtney from my birthday dinners?

SPEAKER_03 11:16

Do you know they'll get along?

SPEAKER_01 11:17

Yes, yes. So I always been like trying to pair people together so that like the people, especially too, because it's like I I feel like I have a lot of friends, but I don't really have a big friend group. I've got a lot of like random people from different areas of my life. Um, and then they all come together at my birthday, and so I'm always trying. I know a lot of people show up by themselves, right? And so I'm always trying to pair people off with like a little button.

SPEAKER_03 11:41

And that's how we met Miles and Gideon.

SPEAKER_01 11:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:43

That is true, yeah. That's so true.

SPEAKER_03 11:45

He paired me and Nick. Yeah. And Jared. He I said, Jared, and what do you go? Where do you do it on Saturday? He said, Oh, well fuck me then. He said, We can if you want, and he's like, it's fine. Jared. I was like, I'm sure he's welcome, but it's okay. Yeah, okay. I'm like, you want to socialize with people you don't know? For sure, you care. Oh, that's funny. But yeah, we all had a great time. Yeah, but you're right, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Yeah, and we ended up keying for like hours. It was so fun. It was so fun.

SPEAKER_00 12:18

Well, in that moment, too, where the German moment? Yeah, that's a good one. I love that. I think that was like one of my favorite moments. I'll repeat it for a while.

SPEAKER_03 12:26

I really bring it up like once a week to Germany. He's like, you told me you loved that. It was so funny.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

Because what we were sitting there for maybe an hour, just like, you know, doing some small talks, getting to know each other. Yeah. And then I I forget, Gideon said that he went to Germany for a while, and I said, like, and I was like, ah, I can know, I'll speak to English or something like that. And he lit up. He was so excited. And then, of course, I followed you. I was so excited, I was like, let's go.

SPEAKER_03 12:53

And then started spitting Germany back and forth.

SPEAKER_00 12:57

And it was it was such a blast. And it was honestly such a highlight.

SPEAKER_03 13:01

Like you throw up a little German right now?

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Uh nine. Ich prachtig Deutsch, but a little mein Deutsch ist gar nicht gut, aber I know how to say I love you.

SPEAKER_01 13:11

Ich liebe dich. Right?

SPEAKER_00 13:13

Yeah, no, yeah. Kind of Ich liebe dich.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 13:19

I think in Austria you can do that like Ish sound. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 13:25

What would it be?

SPEAKER_00 13:26

Well like the each. It's like an ach. Well, you call it Ichlie Bh. Ich liebe.

SPEAKER_01 13:34

Whatever. We're being precious about pronunciation. That's well, I think I mentioned this on the other on on the last recording that video that like gay German boy who's like interviewing people in the street. That has yet to come out yet.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Yeah, it's coming out. It'll come out to T.

SPEAKER_01 13:56

It'll be in the carousel.

SPEAKER_03 13:58

And I haven't listened to this yet, so I'm very excited to be a fan of that.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

I haven't edited it yet, so I guess sometimes.

SPEAKER_03 14:04

I mean, I did edit on our last spot, the listener, not not the last one you heard, but the one before that. Um I did edit it at Tuesday, Tuesday evening to come out Wednesday morning.

SPEAKER_00 14:14

So And that's probably what I will be doing.

SPEAKER_01 14:16

And you know what? Sometimes that happens. It's the next episode, and I won't reveal who the special guest is, but there will be opportunity for journey.

SPEAKER_02 14:24

Oh yeah, there will be a journey!

SPEAKER_00 14:27

Oh, I didn't know that. Okay.

unknown 14:32

Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

I want to circle back to um you getting comfortable meeting people. Have you ever gone to like a convention? Are you like a fan of anything?

SPEAKER_03 14:41

I went to a convention with you. I went to AWP with you. Oh yeah, we did go to AWP. That's the only convention I think ever. Well, I mean, I go to conventions for work, but like Cardigan convention. Yeah, my cardigan. Because I go to site conventions, and so I always say like it's like a bunch of people with cardigans. Like when Holly and I went to New Orleans, there was a business convention right before. Um, it was it's called ABCT, and so there's a lot more clinicians there than like there's clinicians and researchers, not even all researchers. And I Holly was like, Are these your people? It's like no. I was like, you'll see when it changes. And it was literally like we went out.

SPEAKER_01 15:16

There was like an education convention happening there when we were there. Yeah, it was like there. Well, we were in the elevator with a Republican senator from like Alabama, oh yeah, who was like, yeah, doing doing some crazy things in the educations here in the South.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_01 15:33

And she was perfectly pleasant lady in the elevator. Yep. Yeah, which is like even more serious.

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Oh yeah, it's terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 15:40

But yeah, Melissa was like, oh, honey, you all know. Yeah, you'll know.

SPEAKER_00 15:44

And did you know?

SPEAKER_01 15:45

I did know, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

We like literally left in the morning, and there were people with like Louis Vuitton and like three-piece suits and limited meals. We came back cardigans as far as the eye can see. Even just like the vibe of the vibe, you could talk to everybody there and they would look you in the eyes and tell you like they give you absolutely feedback.

SPEAKER_00 16:03

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 16:06

Even like like the volume in the room was like there was a noticeable difference.

SPEAKER_00 16:10

Yeah, no, very, very, very, it's very funny. Wow. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:12

So I mean, I think I'd go to work conventions, but those are very different than like fan comic-con kind of things. I would never go to one, even though I I love all of that stuff. I would never go to one that would stress me out. I also don't like crowds, so like I don't like new people, and I don't like crowds, so the idea of like Comic-Con is the worst. Personal nightmare. I might go to One Tree Hill convention though. Oh. Because there's one every year, two hours from where I'll be living, and like I love One Tree Hill, but it's very small. Like it's like a couple hundred people because it's in Wilmington, North Carolina, and it's just for like diehard One Tree Hill fans.

SPEAKER_01 16:46

So do you want to note something? Please. Me and Raylan's friend, who is now a lawyer, and she's extremely iconic. But the girl we know who fucked Aaron Carter, right? Um, also fucked someone from One Tree Hill. I his name was like His name is is something weird. He has like a name, it's like skills or something. Yeah. Because she went to that she went to that convention and fucked him after. And now she's a fucking lawyer, so shout out to her. Shout out her. I love just like a crazy renaissance woman like that. Like she talked to Eric Carter more than once, mind you. Yeah, in two different cities.

SPEAKER_00 17:24

Whoa, recipes.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

And yeah, the guy from One Tree Hill. And now she is like a lesbian, a lawyer, and just like living her best life in LA. I wish on the topic of conventions, well, actually, I have a few things. Let's talk about conventions. Um, I wish everyone could experience like a hairstylist convention, like hair shows.

SPEAKER_02 17:46

Yeah, what?

SPEAKER_01 17:47

I grew up hearing about them from my aunt and my cousin. Honey, they're crazy. The one at the McCormick Alumni Center in um Chicago is so much fun. And there are stages where people are like cutting hair on stage and they're doing tricks and performances that like the best comedian in the world couldn't write. Like a writer's film of the of the most um intelligent comedians you can imagine, they could never even dream of like the average hair show experience.

SPEAKER_03 18:21

They need to make the pit, which is 24 hours in an ER. It's 24 hours at a hair convention.

SPEAKER_01 18:26

Correct. Correct. I'll put something in the carousel, but like there are, I mean, they're performing on that stage. They are spraying hairspray in a way that again you can't even dream of. You can't even dream of. They're cutting hair in a way that you can't, there's you just can't imagine it. And I wish everybody could experience like a hairstylist convention. There's also hairstyle, I mean, it's you have to be licensed to attend, so it's just like a ginormous convention center filled to the brim with hairstylists. There are people walking around with um carry-on suitcases because there's sales. Yes, big sales, and so people are stocking up my product, equipment, whatever. There's um like a main stage that has like schedules uh performers, essentially.

SPEAKER_03 19:16

One of my first pieces of makeup ever was actually like uh one of those, do you know those like stack compacts of eyeshadows that flip out? Yes, one of those given to me by my aunt from a hair convention or pathetology convention. Love.

SPEAKER_01 19:30

Yeah, it's just it's a beautiful experience.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

It is.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

And on the topic of conventions, now that I'm thinking of it, I have an announcement for the pod, which is that I'm finally free from my overnight job. And that's why I've been a little mini on pod lately, because I was in the process of interviewing for this job, and I'll keep it vague, I'll keep it vague. But um, I will be in the convention sphere. So I'm excited for all the weird little characters I'll get to meet around the US. Can't wait. I have a new job.

SPEAKER_00 20:11

This is so good to be big as well.

SPEAKER_01 20:12

This isn't like the longest week ever. Because today's Saturday, I got the offer Monday, and it feels like it's been a month since that happened.

SPEAKER_00 20:19

Yeah, a lot has happened to me.

SPEAKER_03 20:21

You're free.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Yeah. Yeah, I'm free, I'm checked out of work, and I'm thrilled.

SPEAKER_00 20:26

Wow, this is so good.

SPEAKER_03 20:27

So happy for you.

SPEAKER_01 20:28

With a $10,000 pay increase. Yeah, salary too, so all my paychecks are gonna be the same. They've gone.

SPEAKER_00 20:35

And you can plan, you can budget.

SPEAKER_01 20:37

I can budget, I can plan. Um I probably hopefully won't have to ask my mom to transfer me $100 so I don't overdraft my bank account anymore. You know, grown age of 32. So hopefully that those days are behind me, but surprised. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:54

Wow, this is so great. So you're gonna work in conventions.

SPEAKER_01 20:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:59

In the convention center, wow worlds.

SPEAKER_00 21:02

I brought up conventions because there's um a Doctor Who convention that happens in the Twin Cities every year called Console Room.

SPEAKER_03 21:08

I think there's a Doctor Who convention here every year.

SPEAKER_00 21:10

Yeah, it's called Console Room, so it like doesn't really sound much like it's a Doctor Who thing.

SPEAKER_03 21:15

I don't feel like Brian's ever brought this up, so I'm wondering if this is a good one.

SPEAKER_00 21:18

Because it is very small. It's a very small room.

SPEAKER_03 21:20

I'm like, I don't know if Brian's still listening to call it. Brian, if you're listening.

SPEAKER_00 21:24

You gotta lock in, big.

SPEAKER_03 21:26

Call Nick.

SPEAKER_00 21:28

You want to come, it's beginning of January, come come.

SPEAKER_03 21:31

Really?

SPEAKER_00 21:32

Yes, around January, February every year. And I've ever been? I have. I went one time and it was um and I went alone. This was the thing that was really scary. I did it because I was like, I'm trying to be brave, trying to like get out and like, you know, kind of like work through the discomfort of I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 21:48

Being in public.

SPEAKER_00 21:49

Yeah, being in public. And also in like a space that I'm not used to. I'm not used to like fandom based like culture. I'm not used to like fan culture. So it was like really truly my first taste. Of like what it is to be at a convention, like a Comic Con.

SPEAKER_01 22:02

Was it just at the convention center?

SPEAKER_00 22:04

No, it was actually at a hotel. So it was at the Hilton by the airport. And it was like very small. Like there wasn't a lot going on. And it was so much fun. The reason I had is there was a band that was playing there. And I had discovered their album just like on just like scrolling random Doctor Who stuff. And they wrote an entire fan album based on one episode of Doctor Who.

SPEAKER_03 22:28

I remember you telling me about this now.

SPEAKER_00 22:30

And it is still a killer album because it's based on a killer episode. And it was, yeah, it was it was so much fun. I don't even remember what it was called. We'll find it. I'll find it, but it's like basically one of the things I remember being so proud of myself was that I would like go into these like breakout rooms where people would be talking about certain things, and I was like, actually say something. And I was very proud about like contributing in some way. And there was like one time there were like three people in a room, and it just was like kind of a company that was like, we're through it, work through it, um yeah. My favorite moment from that convention was that there was an old companion, she played companion in the 70s, she's an she's an older woman now, and she can barely see, well, she's never really been able to see, and that was part of her like her part of her bit of being like well, I'm kinda blind she is. Um but I like physically ran into her, well, she ran into me when we were like in the same. Well she assaulted me as well. And we were uh just picking up some like little snacks before this like speech portion was gonna happen, and she was gonna be the one to speak. So I was like, I'm just gonna kind of look in OLAR and LC right LSR. And then yeah, I'm like, oh, there's like some people running into me. And I was like, oh, what's going on? And at first I was like, what? And I was like, oh, it's Katie Manning. This is a big deal. Um and I panicked. And she just like grabbed my arm and just said, like, I'm so sorry. And also was like, oh, she's the sweetest woman, and she really is anything she I mean anybody who like follows her anywhere, like, knows that she's like the sweetest woman and like the doctor who's biggest fan. Yeah. But anyway, it was actually time, and that's why I was like, I feel like that'd be a really cool space for me to try out to be like get out there and maybe not alone, because it's not fun to be alone.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

Yeah, I think I think that was hard to think. I mean, I think like I thought you're not gonna care about the other. Um yeah, we Jared and I used to work, uh fantasy word we have in Minnesota. It's also hashtag broadly. Um and it was really cute. And um they every year they have there's like a small, what is it called? There's a small Comic-Con aspect thing that happens in Minnesota. Um, no, no, like an actual Comic-Con style, like fan build style. It happens in Bloomington. Oh, the one that's at the Bloomington agenda, whatever, it's like the border. And it's at a hotel, like a big hotel that hasn't been over. It's called, oh my god, I cannot think of what it's called. No, the con. It hasn't but anyway, it happens every year. It's essentially Comic-Con because there's smaller because it's in Minnesota. But it's like a large convention, like it's a pretty big one. And people I think are like one of two, and Jared and I always worked that day because we worked every day. And we would close, and Carol would literally never give us more staff, and so people would leave the convention to go get coffee, and from noon to our close at 7 p.m., we were the only two staff members in the same. And I will just say we were turned like a very industrial area.

SPEAKER_01 25:49

What 18, 19?

SPEAKER_03 25:50

Yeah, like 19 years old. Yeah, we were in a very industrial area, so a lot of times our clients were like business people most of the time, and then this was a very different group of people, and they were the nicest people on earth. We raped in tips, nobody ever complained about the wait because the wait was long, because there would be a line at the door, and there are two of us working. Two 19-year-olds, two 19-year-olds trying to make coffee as fast as humanly possible. We got so many tits, they were so nice. Like, I also love seeing like all their creative costuming. Like, it's so impressive what you want to do. I just have like I have the worst and best memories of that because the worst was Jared and I wanted to kill ourselves because it was the worst day of work every year, multiple years in a row, and we would have to, we would close at 7 p.m. and we would close this door, it would take us until like 10 or 11 p.m. to close the store and we wouldn't have been able to do like anything all day. Um but it was also lovely because everybody was over. I remember one year somebody came in and she had the most freaking uh what is her freaking name? Uh John Snow's lady. That was her name red.

unknown 27:09

E red.

SPEAKER_03 27:12

It's like it has a Y and it has like a Y, but it's not a Young Y. It's something. It's like E. I can't remember if it's a long.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

Wow, that is a name.

SPEAKER_03 27:24

Yeah. Oh, wow. That's House of the Dragon, that's Emma Doris. Well, that's kind of that's kind of why. That's kind of why this girl is in there, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Um, but this girl came in and she had the most amazing costume, and I was like, Can I take a picture with you? And she was like, Yeah, and she did like the boat, like she was just so fun. And so yeah, everybody was lovely. So big ups to them. I think.

SPEAKER_01 27:44

Okay, do you want to know what? I actually would go to a con like that just to people watch. And listen, nerds are very accepting, loving people.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

They really are. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:54

There's like a there's like fandom, like nerd fandom is like 90% of the nicest people you ever meet who are like a little optimistic, and then there's 10% of fandom that's like extremely misogynistic, where it's the worst hand dweller. Yeah, there's always that population of like a big fandom. Because there is in the world, but I would say most people, yeah, are really sweet um and awesome people. Yeah. I also I have to recommend Jenny Nicholson is one of my favorite YouTubers. I fucking Jenny, if you're listening. Jenny. I'm obsessed with you. Um, her four and a half hour long video about how the Star Wars Hotel at Disney was the worst thing ever, is uh should have won an Oscar. But she has a convention, she has a uh video called The Last Brony Con, where she dissects like the end of the Brony fandom because she's being part of it.

SPEAKER_01 28:47

I feel like I've seen this, like it's like uh advertised minutes.

SPEAKER_03 28:52

So good. And like there's a very famous song, I can't think of how it goes, but you guys have probably both heard it because it like makes the rounds. It's actually a it's a song from the Brony fandom. Yeah. That she was a part of it. She actually is the person who created that song, which I didn't know. And it's so good that she goes through how like basically the the rise and fall of the bronies and the brony con and everything. It's so good. I also think about like what was it, Tumblr Con with the ball pit? Yeah. Do you know about this? Sure. There was like a it was supposed to be like for users of Tumblr, come come to our con, and like basically nobody showed up, and there was like a sad ball pit in the middle of the floor, and it was like it was a fucking mess. Wow. I do it was very infamous.

SPEAKER_01 29:35

I do love um kind of failed conventions and like attractions. Like American? Yeah, con. Um, I'm even thinking about like that like Willy Wonka experience. Yeah, there was like a Barbie con too that was like really scammy and weird recently. Like there is something about just like a very, it's very bathrooms adjacent, limital space, like weird yeah, 60% effort convention. Love that.

SPEAKER_03 30:06

Yeah. There's uh do you know what I honestly, and I I mean this so seriously, not earnestly, but seriously. I desperately want to go to like a sex convention or like an erotic convention. Oh my god, the same because like I don't personally need any of that stuff really. I'm not a big crazy gal. I want to keep it the girl. I want to see what the girls are doing. I think the girls are the coolest people ever, and I want to see the men in there.

SPEAKER_01 30:32

I want to keep the men in the gooners in there. And I want to talk to Angela White. Yeah, yeah. And let's be real about it.

SPEAKER_03 30:40

I just think it would be like I think it would be an interesting space to be like, I think the people watching there would be unreal. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:47

I believe in it.

SPEAKER_03 30:48

There's also there's a another YouTuber who I actually like find her extremely annoying. I can't think of her name right now. I find her like very millennial and cringe. Um, but she almost her entire YouTube channels for going to cons and then reviewing them and posting footage from it. And so I do watch them because it's so interesting. She goes to like all these like random conventions for fits that like you would never think would have a convention. She went to one that was like a ghost hunter con. And I was like, This is my nightmare, but my mother's dream and Molly's dream. Oh, and it did actually look like very cool. Wow. I think it was like in maybe like the Seattle-ish area or something. Watch it be in like New York. Um, and it was like in the fall, and like they did like ghost tours at night. Like it looked really fun, um, and there were people like selling their wares. So that seemed very fun. But yeah, I love her videos because I'm just like, there's this whole world out here of like people who are so deeply invested in things.

SPEAKER_00 31:46

Yes, yeah. I just had the realization that the most the conventions that I've been the most to have been? No. They've been religion-based. They've been like Christian conventions things under the guise of a for why? Um like what do they call those?

SPEAKER_03 32:07

Religious psychosis?

SPEAKER_00 32:08

No, well yeah, that no, the one where you get all the kids to like fly to a certain place and you like a youth, like a youth group, like a youth convention. Oh shit, there's a name for it. I don't remember where it is. Like a I don't remember, but it'd be like every summer it would go to like it's like a summer camp? Kind of, but it's like a week or two long. It's like a week or two long where you go, you take like a group of people from your church and you go to like a convention center somewhere. So like we went to one in San Antonio.

SPEAKER_03 32:46

I've never done this, I have no idea what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_00 32:50

You already know I have no well, you're a veteran, so it makes sense. But it's like, yeah, and then you would go to the convention center and you would have a church service in the morning. You would have like your breakout sessions that you could like choose your things. Yeah, it was JesusCon. JotCon, JotCon, JotCon.

SPEAKER_01 33:08

Yeah, JotCon.

SPEAKER_00 33:09

Well, actually, no, this is God Con. Let's be clear. Let's be clear. Um, but uh yeah, no, I've gone to so many of those. I'm now realizing that was my realization just now that I was like, oh fuck, I've gone to more of those than probably any of the other ones.

SPEAKER_03 33:22

But as an adult.

SPEAKER_00 33:24

No.

SPEAKER_03 33:24

No.

SPEAKER_00 33:25

AWP and Doctor Who?

SPEAKER_03 33:27

Yeah. AWP was happening at the same time in the convention center right next door to the convention I went to in Baltimore. And I was like, damn, I want to be with these girls. Because it was just like everyone's printing loads of books in the house. I'm fucking all that. Wow. So many free books. When I went to AWP in Minneapolis, which was in 2015, probably. It was 2015, yeah. Um there was a diva at the HarperCollins stand who was I was like, do you have a recommendation for me who worked at Harper Collins, and she was like, Yeah, we need to talk about Kevin, which is an extremely good book.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

Um the movie?

SPEAKER_03 34:00

The movie Miller. I definitely liked the movie because I like the book so much. I never situation. But it is bone-chilling.

SPEAKER_01 34:08

Yeah, the movie I would say someone who hasn't read the book, Similar Impact. Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 34:13

Um, and she was looking all over, yeah, because they just have this little like um, they have this little like stand, right? So they only have what they have. She was looking over and she was like, oh my god, we don't have it. And she said, Here's my business card, email me your address. I emailed her my address. Harbor Collins sends me for free that book. She said, You have to read this, and I thank her for that. Yeah, yeah. And that was really that was real and true. I have a full bodies. It was incredible. So awesome. And she was right, I didn't need to read that book. Yeah. It is so good. The book like really gets into her psyche even more about like motherhood and what it means. Which, if you're listening, read or what read the book or watch the movie. But it is about, I would say, in essence, we need to talk about Kevin is like what happens when somebody is a mother who does not want to be a mother, yeah, who is forced societally to become a mother.

SPEAKER_00 35:08

That sounds terrifying.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

I watched a very spee on the topic of motherhood, kind of. Um, I watched a very Love Island vocabor jarring documentary last night when I was working. Yeah. Um, it's new on Netflix. It's called Maternal Instinct, and it's about like a crazy baby snatcher lady. Baby snatching some crazy. Then me and Lindsay were talking about how like how bad baby snatching scares us. It's really scary. Like deranged women who like murder pregnant women. Yeah, it's it's really I've I'm like, I feel like that documentary is gonna be nominated for like an Oscar, probably. Like it really is bone chilling. The last like 35 minutes, I would say, tough. Really, like I like am covered in goosebumps right now. Like I cried, like it really was like, did you watch The Perfect Neighbor? I can't remember. No, I haven't watched that yet. Similar Impact, where I'm like, I will never watch this ever again. I'm glad I watched it, but it What was it on? Um Netflix. I'm like Netflix is really like interesting doing something with some other documentary lately because a lot of it is like a lot of the documentaries on Netflix are kind of just like slop for second screen viewers, you know. Yeah, yeah. But this one was very well done. It was very scary, very jarring and disturbing. Particular case, yeah, it was like a crazy woman who like murdered another woman for her baby and then went to the hospital after, and this was in 2020 too. So there's like body cam footage and like the body cam footage of the nurses in the hospital. Like I literally I was speechless. I was like the whole the horror on their faces is just like nothing I've ever seen. Oh my god. Yeah, so I also recommendations!

SPEAKER_03 37:02

I also just wonder about like that because it's like what drives a person to be that desperate for a baby that because that's like such a specific crime, like that's such a specific way to harm somebody that's such a specific thing to do, and it's like for this personal benefit that's also very specific. Like it's just such an odd I don't know, it doesn't happen like that much, right? Like I think sometimes like baby snatching issues can happen, but like you know, a murder of a woman, but like it's such a specific, like it almost feels like a like a postpartum psychosis type thing. And I know like there have been some cases where it's like women who have lost their baby and then they like go into some like yeah, it's it feels just very wild, and I would just be so interested to know about these women.

SPEAKER_00 37:51

I mean, like I've always been interested in like I've always been interested in like what it's like to be pregnant, yeah. But like I'd never do that.

SPEAKER_03 37:58

You wouldn't snatch a baby?

SPEAKER_00 38:00

No, I don't think so. Right for speaking.

SPEAKER_01 38:02

Yeah, that's that's a good conspiracy take, I would say. I think um, yeah, I won't I won't give too many details of it in case either of you want to watch it because I went into it like not kind of knowing like the gist, but I had I was not familiar with this like case. I don't know, I I I don't really um participate in like true crime anything anymore. Oh, it's not recording, is it? It hasn't been recording this whole time I don't think you for listening to the Castle.

SPEAKER_03 38:39

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